This headstone is between those of Jefferson Springsteen and George Springsteen in the beautiful Crown Hill Cemetery of Indianapolis, Indiana. Only “J. Springsteen” is carved on the stone, but the cemetery records note this headstone as being for a “John Springsteen.” It is one of the many Springsteen headstones in the family plot.
We know that Jefferson Springsteen was the son of a John Springsteen; George Springsteen was the son of Abraham, another of this same John Springsteen’s sons. (See “Sunday’s Obituary: John Springsteen.”)
Thus this headstone may be for the same John, the father of Jefferson, Abraham, Sarah Emily, Missouri E., and Eliza/Anaeliza Springsteen, and husband to Mary Logan. It could be logical that he is buried between his son and grandson.
Springsteen Family Plot at Crown Hill Cemetery, Indianapolis, Indiana. The J. Springsteen marker is the tall stone at the center of the second row from front. Via Find A Grave, with kind permission.
There is a bit of another question here though: the cemetery states that the John Springsteen under this stone was buried 11/22/1876.
HOWEVER…
The obituary mentioned above states that ‘our’ John Springsteen died 19 March 1867.
SO…
** Could there be an error in the date from the cemetery? The last two digits, ’67’ could have been transposed and become 1876.
BUT…
John died on Tuesday the 19th, and was buried on Thursday, the 21st. The date from the cemetery is the 22nd.
THE KICKER…
The month: the obituary states March, Crown Hill records state November. Big difference- hard to confuse a 3 with an 11.
** Or could this be a different John Springsteen?
** Or could John have been buried in one spot, then re-interred in the family plot? The first Springsteen burial in the family plot was 04/15/1873, Laura Springsteen. Possibly the family did not own the large plot until after John’s death?
The obituary suggests that his death occurred at his home in Indianapolis, as he was sitting in “his chair.” The funeral took place from the residence of his son, Jefferson Springsteen, who lived in Indianapolis. It does not seem logical that John died and was buried in one place- especially a far place- and then reinterred in the family plot. It could have happened, though it seems there might be a note in the cemetery records as they do sometimes note removals.
John Springsteen’s wife Mary Logan Springsteen is not buried in the family plot- at least, there is no record of it. (The Mary A. Springsteen buried in the family plot is Mary Anita Willet, wife of Abraham Springsteen.) John’s wife Mary is not mentioned at all in his obituary, nor are any children other than Jefferson & Abram. Had Mary passed away before John, were they estranged, or did she survive him?
More information would be appreciated, if anyone out there has found some verification.
Crown Hill Cemetery, Burial Locator- https://www.crownhill.org/locate/. Enter “Springsteen” and John is listed in Section 14, Lot 67, buried 11/22/1876.
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Charles Springsteen (or Thomas Jefferson Springsteen) of Indianapolis, Indiana, c1863? Cropped from family portrait.
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We have been unable to find any family with other pictures of these two to help differentiate them. Four years separate them in age, with Thomas Jefferson Springsteen being the older. We think the young man above that is labeled as Thomas Jefferson is the older, but hard to tell. He used “Thomas” sometimes and “Jeff” others, it seems, so again, hard to pin these folks down.
Thomas Jefferson Springsteen, sometimes called “Jeff” is not found in the History of Indianapolis and Marion County, Indiana, by B.R. Sulgrove, Philadelphia, 1884. https://archive.org/details/historyofindiana00sulgrich
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Four Generations of Springsteens: Jefferson Springsteen, seated, with his great-grandson William Francis Helbling. Standing on left is Jefferson’s daughter Anna Missouri (Springsteen) Beerbower, and her daughter, Anna May (Beerbower) Helbling, mother of little William. Taken November, 1906.
Jefferson Springsteen (1820-1909), married Anna Connor (1824-1887).
Anna Missouri Springsteen (1854-1939) married Edgar Peter Beerbower (1849-1916).
Anna May Beerbower (1881-1954) married William Gerard Helbling (1882-1971).
William Francis Helbling (1906-1907) died at age 15 and one-half months.
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As we discussed last Saturday in “Shopping Saturday: Abram Springsteen and His Civil War Drum, Part 1,” “Shopping Saturday” was any day of the week, and was actually ‘foraging.’ Our illustrious drummer boy, Abram Furman Springsteen wasn’t always looking for food- well, since he was a teenage boy, he probably WAS always looking for food, but he also took ‘foraging’ up a notch, like many other soldiers. Sometimes Abram took advantage of situations in order to make himself a little money and some additional friends, as well.
“Home Sweet Home” during the Civil War for our soldiers was missing a number of the comforts of home. Abram set out to rectify that. He recounted in his diary that after reaching Goldsboro, North Carolina, toward the end of the war,
“During our encampment there, I did considerable speculating. One morning I borrowed the Chaplain’s horse and started for a settlers tent situated about 2 miles from our camp at a R.R. [railroad] station.”
“Trading for Coffee and Tobacco” by Edwin Forbes. Courtesy Indiana Historical Society. See notes for details.
“Before reaching the place, I met a soldier with a box of cigars under his arm and inquired of him the distance to the settlers. He told me that the settler was no more, that the boys had made a raid on his shop and (?) had confiscated every thing in reach, at the same time holding up the box of cigars and saying this is what I got out of the concern. I asked him if he would sell them to me, he said yes for a 5 bill.”
(Company I, 63rd Indiana was in Goldsboro, NC from 21 March to 10 April 1865.)
US currency- a fifty cent note used during the Civil War (reverse). Note that Lincoln was then used on the 50 cent bill, vs. today’s five-dollar bill. Courtesy Indiana Historical Society. See notes for details.
Abram returned to camp and sold the cigars for double the price he had paid.
“On the following day, I bought an old pistol from a negro for two dollars and sold it to a soldier for $4.00.”
US currency- a fifty cent note used during the Civil War (reverse). Courtesy Indiana Historical Society. See notes for details.
“Soon after this, I borrowed the Chaplain’s horse again and went out on a hunt for something good to eat…”
There’s that growing boy’s big appetite again.
“… at a place about 5 miles from our camp, I found a man who had six plugs of navy tobacco which I purchased at $5.00? a plug and which I soon sold out after arriving at camp at $7.50? a plug.”
(The question marks are in the transcription.)
Abram’s wheeler-dealer talents would be useful in later years to help out the troops, too. He worked in the War Department and was active in the G.A.R. Abrams worked tirelessly for veterans rights, including pensions and paid time off to the last big G.A.R. encampment.
Notes, Sources, and References:
“Navy tobacco” was a twisted Burley leaf tobacco that could also be pressed into a compact plug and used in a pipe. It was small to carry and burned slowly, resulting in a long smoke- great for soldiers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_cut_tobacco
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“Home Sweet Home” courtesy of the Indiana Historical Society. Description: In 1861 Edwin Forbes was hired as a staff artist by “Frank Leslie’s Illustrated Newspaper.” He covered the Army of the Potomac from 1862-1864, and was known for his ability to draw quickly. His primary interest was in recording the everyday activity of soldiers. “Home Sweet Home” plate 24, is from his publication Life Studies of the Great Army. https://images.indianahistory.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/dc008/id/568/rec/1026
“Trading for Coffee and Tobacco” by Edwin Forbes. Courtesy Indiana Historical Society. Description: In 1861 Edwin Forbes was hired as a staff artist by “Frank Leslie’s Illustrated Newspaper.” He covered the Army of the Potomac from 1862-1864, and was known for his ability to draw quickly. His primary interest was in recording the everyday activity of soldiers. “Trading for Coffee and Tobacco Between the Fortified Lines During a Truce” plate35, is from his publication “Life Studies of the Great Army.” https://images.indianahistory.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/dc008/id/576/rec/2379
“Diary of Abram F. Springsteen” transcription, done by family members. Thank you for sharing!
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What is generally called ‘shopping’ became ‘foraging’ of the hunter-gatherer style once a man became a soldier. This was true for Abram F. Springsteen as well. Mary T. (Helbling) McMurray, his great-niece, told her descendants the story she had been told about his foraging. Since he was so little at about age 12, Abram could get in and out of little places easily, like through a broken fence, board, or hole and into a barn or chicken house. He used to hide eggs inside his drum as he departed, and calmly leave the area with ‘only’ his drum. Abram’s comrades were always happy to see that their enterprising young comrade was out looking for a tasty supplement to the generally awful Army grub.
This is one of the many family stories that rings true. Abram included some of his ‘shopping’ escapades in his diary. He did not specifically note the ‘appropriation’ of eggs by the Union Army from the Confederates (or even Union sympathizers), but that most likely happened as well.
Abram’s diary describes a cold January ‘shopping’ trip with fellow soldiers:
“On the 17th we joined in the pursuit of Hood’s, going as far as Clifton on the Tenn river where we remained until the 16th of Jany 1865. During which time our rations ran out and one morning after reveille I proposed to one of the drummers by the name of John Ellis, that we start out on a foraging expedition. He being much older than I, we started after providing ourselves with a musket and some cartridges. After going about a mile from camp, we saw a house across a field from which we made a break but before reaching it we heard some firing to our left and upon looking around saw three men coming along a lane near by one of which was leading a mule and supposing them to be rebels, we hid behind a stone fence until they came out of the lane when we recognized them as being Yanks. Upon seeing us, they called to us to join them but Ellis would go no further, so bidding him good bye I joined the party who proved to be of the 24th Ky. Inf. [Kentucky Infantry] of our Brig. [Brigade]”
Abram was fearless, to take off from camp with just one other soldier- and a drummer at that! Back in those days, the boys were likely to have experience with a rifle, as they would have gone hunting or just out to shoot back home. But then to join up with other Union soldiers by himself- he was either brave, very trusting, or possibly, foolhardy. (Men are not always so nice in war- even to their fellow soldiers.)
“Land of milk & honey” by Forbes.Courtesy of the Indiana Historical Society. See notes for details.
“After going about a mile further, I was put upon the mule to ride which suited me exactly. We soon sighted a house near where we found nothing save a few dried pumpkin parins’. Soon after leaving the place, we came across a pig rooting by the road side, one of the boys sent a bullet thro him and after cutting him up, hid the parts wanted in the bushes and started on and after traveling about a mile sighted another house situated about a quarter of a mile from the road. Here we found chickens, hams, bacon, Tobacco and a general assortment of provisions and were compelled; in order to carry all we wanted , to enlist the services of an old family nag [horse] we found on the place.”
Although Abram and the Kentucky soldiers spoke to the woman of the house and learned that her husband was “a loyal union man,” they decided they would confiscate food. Also, the woman had “a little babe in her arms”- so they knew they were taking food from a family who sorely needed it, despite being on the Union side. (Or so the woman said. Since homes and farms were raided by both sides, it would be smart for a family to claim they were on the side that was on their doorstep; survival was paramount.)
The soldiers knew that Hood’s forces were likely close by, so they needed to expedite their ‘shopping’ trip before they could get caught. They loaded up the mule Abram had been riding on plus took the old nag- probably the only horse the family had for plowing by that point. They started back to camp in the late afternoon, and stopped to pick up the parts of the pig they had butchered earlier. They wanted to reach camp after dark anyway, so others would not know what they had brought.
By the time Abram got to his tent, which he shared with Major Pickard, he heard the voice of Ellis, the fellow drummer he had started out with that morning. He also heard the Major giving Ellis,
“… a severe turning over for allowing me to go on with the parties we had met as they supposed me either captured or killed and just then I popped my head in the tent and then there was a time. I told the boys to keep quiet and just follow me. I then took the hungry dogs over to the 24th Ky. where my share of the proceeds of our trip were awaiting me. The boys having given me more than an equal share of what we had captured.
Well, to say the boys were delighted at the sight of all the good things would be drawing it entirely too mild, they were perfectly overjoyed and for the time being I was the hero of the camp as I divided the provisions up as far as they would reach.”
Another time, near to when he was discharged at Greensboro, North Carolina, Abram took a number of foraging expeditions with his “chum” Bruce Hardy of the 112 Illinois (whose father was an officer, also in the 112 Ill.). During one of the ‘expeditions’ they fired their guns within a few miles of camp, probably trying to hit some birds or possibly a wild hog- Abram doesn’t say why. The two boys were actually arrested by the Union pickets (guards) for that offense, as they would have feared that the enemy was nearby. (There were still southern enemies even after the Civil War officially drew to a close.) The boys were taken to General Stiles’ headquarters, and severely reprimanded before being released.
“On another occasion, we got an old mule and started out in search of something good to eat. After going about 6 miles, we … having been informed there lived a beautiful daughter of a Rebel officer, we decided to have a peep at the young lady and, hitching the mule to a little bush, we proceeded with the use of a small pocket mirror, to arrange our toilet and while thus engaged our mule, who by the way was loaded down with butter, eggs, chickens, milk and a general assortment of provisions [from their ‘shopping’ trip], pulled the bush out of the ground and before we could realize what had happened was on his way back to camp.
“We made a grand attempt to catch him but he was too much for us so we gave up the chase and also the idea of taking a peep at the beautiful maiden we had heard about. We arrived back in camp about dark where we found the mule plastered from head to tail with butter, eggs, milk, etc. and looking as though he had been run through a thrashing machine.”
The mule must have high-tailed it back to camp, smashing the provisions on his sides as he trotted through dense woods.
Abram reported that a few days later, they returned to the home of the beautiful maiden,
“… and this time saw the young lady but she hated the Yanks and would have nothing to say to us.”
The fact that the young lady would not even speak to them likely made the loss of all those good victuals doubly disappointing.
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“On the Potomac” courtesy of Indiana Historical Society. Their description: The tintype shows members of the Twelfth Indiana Infantry eating around a campfire. The men posed for the camera, holding plates and cups. One soldier appears to be feeding another with a spoon or fork, and another holds a tin cup above a coffee pot. Identifications scratched on the back of the tintype state the photograph was made “On the Potomac, 1861.” The list of names derived from an examination of the tintype under a microscope is as follows: Lieut. Wm. W. Angel; Sargt. Jacob Kenagu [Kenagy, Private according to Terrell]; Corp Nat ?reenfield [Greenfield, Recruit according to Terrell]; Privt Geo Burwell; Jno Campbell [John S. Campbell according to Terrell]; Sanford _arns [Karns, Recruit according to Terrell]; ?; Drummer Gilly [Gilmore Hollingsworth, Musician, Company H?]; Jas St ?. via https://images.indianahistory.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/dc008/id/190/rec/1932
“Land of Milk & Honey” by Edwin Forbes, 1876. Plate 32. Indiana Historical Society description: In 1861 Edwin Forbes was hired as a staff artist by “Frank Leslie’s Illustrated Newspaper.” He covered the Army of the Potomac from 1862-1864, and was known for his ability to draw quickly. His primary interest was in recording the everyday activity of soldiers. Plate 32, is from his publication “Life Studies of the Great Army.” The sketches are titled: Gone Off for the Yankees; A Land Flowing with Milk and Honey; A Scouting Party; An Old Campaigner. https://images.indianahistory.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/dc008/id/573/rec/1974
“Diary of Abram F. Springsteen” transcription, completed by family members. Thank you for sharing!
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