Edith M. Roberts- 8th Grade Graduation, 1914, and Rural Schoolhouses and Children

Edith M. Roberts’ 8th grade diploma from the Jasper County, Iowa, Public Schools. [Click to enlarge.]
ROBERTS Family (Click for Family Tree)

Today we head farther back in history from our previous post of Edith M. ROBERTS, (later McMurray, then Luck), when she was a part of the Prairie City High School Class of 1918. Four years earlier, on the 26th of June, 1914, Edith had graduated from 8th grade in the “Public Schools of the State of Iowa.” But what school was it?

We know that Edith could see her brother, George A. Roberts, Jr., and their sister Ethel Gay Roberts, later Robison, coming home from school- she wrote about this in stories to her family. The Mound Prairie schoolhouse was just a quarter of a mile down the road from their farmhouse. Edith adored her older sister and brother. Being the youngest by eight years, she would be at home with her mother, and could stand on a chair and watch out the window for her siblings to leave their one-room schoolhouse.

Jasper County Iowa-Schoolhouse near the farm of the George Roberts family. Photo taken about 1972. [Click to enlarge.]
This is the schoolhouse down the road from their family farm as it looked in the 1970s. If memory serves, the schoolhouse was along W 60th St S, between S 60th Ave W and S 68th Ave W.

Jasper County Iowa-Schoolhouse near the farm of the George Roberts family. Photo taken about 1972. [Click to enlarge.]
This building that housed eager (!?) scholars for many years was used for storing hay in the 1970s.

Edith’s father, George Anthony Roberts, Sr., was on the local school board and hired teachers- and the family also boarded them, more often than Edith’s mother, Ella V. Daniel Roberts, would wish. One more mouth to feed and another person in the small house was a challenge, especially if the schoolteacher had a difficult personality. (We have written earlier about some of those, and need to finish up those thoughts in some new posts. See notes.)

Old schoolhouse, taken in 1910-1920s probably, in with Roberts family pictures. [Click to enlarge.]
Finding this very old picture- 100 years old!- of the same or a similar schoolhouse in with Roberts family pictures was interesting. These photos were taken possibly in the 1920s, or even back into 1910 or so.

We believe that Edith attended this school, Mound Prairie, for her first eight years of schooling. She may have attended another school for the latter part, however, as her father had built a second house in Jasper County where he and her mother moved, but we do not know if Edith was already graduated by that time or if there was another school closer to the new place. We do know that in high school she rode her horse to her paternal grandparents’ house, that of John Roberts and Elizabeth Ann Murrell Roberts, in Prairie City. (They had moved there when John sold their farm and retired.) She would leave the horse at their house and go on to Prairie City High School, and she did the same for church on Sunday.

We also found some old pictures that we think may be children by this old school, or perhaps by another school. (Click to enlarge any of them, or request a higher quality picture.) It is likely that the same floor plan was used for many of the county schoolhouses, and similar exterior materials. Foundations may have been just what was around, especially if the soil was rocky, so those differences may help to differentiate schools.

We do know that Edith Roberts taught in some of the rural schools after she graduated either high school or college, so they could have been the children in her class. They might have instead been family or neighbors who attended this school near the homeplace, or another Jasper County school. Some of the Roberts, Daniel, and Murrell family lived in nearby, or in nearby counties, with some family as far away as northwestern Iowa, Missouri or Illinois- even out into the Dakotas. Some of the same children, especially four handsome boys that look like an energetic handful, are in multiple pictures we have. While the pictures are quite evocative of a very different time and lifestyle and enjoyable in their own way, we surely would like to identify the people and share with other descendants who would also enjoy these pictures. So if you can identify any of these children or the place, please let us know in the Comments section!

#1- Four boys sitting on ground.

#2 Three boys

#3- Eight children that include some of the previous boys.

#4 Four children with coats and caps

#5- Two cute little girls and a dog by a building- school or house?

#6- Eight small children, by schoolhouse?

#7- Nine or so children on a log; perhaps it is Edith Roberts standing?

#8- Eleven girls, likely by a schoolhouse.

#9- Large group of children, by a schoolhouse? Includes some of the boys in earlier pictures.

#10- Five children by a fence- at the schoolhouse or on a farm?

 

More images to come- please do let us know if you can help identify the people in the images or the places.

 

Notes, Sources, and References: 

  1. Family treasure chest of photos, the “Roberts Family Photo Album, circa 1910-1920s.”
  2.  “Those Places Thursday: Jasper County Schoolhouse.”  https://heritageramblings.net/2018/04/19/those-places-thursday-jasper-county-schoolhouse/

 

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“Happily Wed in Athens”- Edith Roberts and Edward A. McMurray, November 1921

Edith M. Roberts, circa 1920. Iowa City, Iowa. Perhaps taken around the time of this wedding? Or college graduation? [Click to enlarge.]
Roberts Family, McMurray Family (Click for Family Trees)

This headline is another prime example of not taking everything at face value in genealogy or historical research, and looking deeper. It is also a lesson to not stop after just the headline or first questionable piece of data- some sources may have multiple concerns, as does this article.

The November 29, 1921 Iowa City Press-Citizen, had the headline “Happily Wed in Athens” on a story on page 11 that day. When looking for the announcement of the Edith M. Roberts-Edward A. McMurray wedding, just scanning headlines might make one skip this article- “Athens”?? Is that Athens, Georgia? Athens, Ohio? Athens, Greece? It is unlikely that these two college students would have had a ‘destination wedding’ to a place 5,600 miles away across an ocean in 1921, however, so we can eliminate the truly Greek Athens, to start.

Edward A. McMurray, Sr., probably circa 1920. May have been from around the time of marriage to Edith Roberts, or college graduation? [Click to enlarge.]
Family logically thought that the couple was married in Jasper County, Iowa, where they both grew up and their parents still lived, but no marriage license or announcement had been found in Jasper County despite years of looking. Iowa City in Johnson County, Iowa, was the next logical location as they were both attending school there. Since this article was published in an Iowa City newspaper and no other city or state other than “Athens” was mentioned as the place of the wedding, it is highly possible it may have taken place in their college town where all their friends were located. (Whew- they didn’t elope- that would have made it much harder to find records.) But why would the place be headlined as “Athens” in the middle of Iowa?

“Mr. Edward McMurray, of Newton, Iowa, and Miss Edith Roberts, of Prairie City, Iowa, a sophomore medical student, and a liberal arts junior, respectively, were happily wed last evening, at sunset, at the Congregational conference house.”

The details of the couple matched many that were already known, so that helped us make sure we had the correct individuals. Since their standings at school were noted, the Iowa City location was becoming a bit more promising. One interesting tidbit about the word “Athens”- it conjured up other articles previously found about Edith being a member of the “Athena Literary Society” at the University of Iowa. She had also created a very sweet scrapbook with treasures from Athena events, so looking into the history of the college and the town were the next steps. This research provided our answer- Iowa City, Iowa, was and still is known as “The Athens of the Midwest” due to its many educational and cultural opportunities and events. Skimming other newspaper articles and delving into their context revealed that “Athens” or “The Athens” was a regular replacement for the official name of the town. So now we had our first answer- Edith Roberts and Edward McMurray were married in Iowa City, Johnson County, Iowa.

The date of the marriage was the next focus. The article was published in the November 29, 1921 issue, which was a Tuesday. It stated the couple was “happily wed last evening, at sunset” – how romantic! The ‘last evening’ mentioned would have been Monday, November 28. Browsing further through that newspaper issue, because the search software had picked up 2 instances of Edith’s name, was an article listing “Licenses to wed… issued by [the] County Clerk…” The names included “E. A. McMurray (21)” and “Edith M. Roberts (22),”- their ages were after the name. Definitely the correct people, as Edward was born in 1900 and Edith in 1899. No date was given in the paper for the license nor a date for the actual wedding, so Johnson County’s records were the next stop on this quest.

Finding the marriage record was actually quite easy as once the event with date had been put into Ancestry.com, the “Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1951” from the Iowa Department of Public Health appeared in a search. (You don’t have to wait for hints to pop up- just do a ‘Search’ using the button by ‘Tools’ and ‘Edit’ on the upper right of the Ancestry page for that person; Ancestry will use the facts already in your tree to help narrow the hits.) It provided the date of the license, 11/25/1921, and even the license number: 10059. The entry confirmed their names, ages (although it has Edith as 23, which is incorrect), residence (Newton for Edward,  Prairie City for Edith), their parents’ names (the middle initial for George A. Roberts is noted as “M.” which is incorrect), and that both were students and it was the first marriage for each. The record lists that they were married 11/25/21 in Iowa City, Iowa- wait, that is different from the newspaper report! Hmm, what should we do now? Thinking about the date, it is obvious that it was around Thanksgiving of that year, so maybe they married over Thanksgiving break, as students might do so they can have a short honeymoon. A wonderful website called TimeAndDate.com will show us a calendar for that month so we can see that Thanksgiving holiday was celebrated on November 24th that year. So it seems that on Friday (11/25/1921) after Thanksgiving, Edith and Edward went to the County Clerk’s office and received their marriage license. They were married by Rev. Walter Schafer that evening, and the return of the actual marriage was filed by the minister on the following Monday, 11/28/1921.

So maybe Edith and Edward had returned home to celebrate Thanksgiving with family, and then returned to school the next day. Was the wedding planned in advance but they waited until the last minute to get the license because they were so busy with exams? Did they make a spur-of-the-moment decision to marry on Thanksgiving or when they got back up to school? Were their parents or siblings in attendance? Rev. Walter C. Schafer was a pastor for students in Iowa City.  Seeing that the witnesses to the wedding were Brainerd Ullrich and Leon Wiggins, names totally unknown to this researcher, suggests that maybe the family did not attend, because a sibling is often the Maid of Honor or Best Man and officially witnesses the wedding.  We will likely never know, however. Because Edith and Edward divorced in less than ten years, there are no wedding portraits and it was not talked about much within subsequent families. Finding these records after years of wondering about details fills in some answers, but leaves the rest to our imaginations.

The last line of the newspaper article was interesting, and does need some explanation but that too will have to be supplied by our imaginations:

“Friends will wish the joy questioning collegians long life and happiness.”

 

Notes, Sources, and References: 

  1. Photos are treasures from the family archives.
  2. See references listed in above paragraphs.
  3. Rev Walter C. Schafer- a student pastor who attended a Chicago conference for religious workers in American colleges and universities. Iowa City Citizen, Jan. 9, 1919, page 8. Also listed as a 33 year old minister in the 1920 Iowa City Ward 2, Johnson County, Iowa, Federal Census.

 

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Guy Leslie Roberts? Jason Lee Roberts? and Georgie Roberts of Jasper County, Iowa, Part 2

Circa 1911-Possibly Guy Leslie Roberts, his wife Florence Myrtle Wilson, and Guy’s parents in back seat, Jason Lee Roberts and Julia French Roberts. [Click to enlarge.]
Roberts Family (Click for Family Tree)

As we work to identify the people in the above photograph, which was cropped from the original posted in Part 1, an internet search for images was not very helpful. Our own blog posts were the majority of the hits, so we revisited those.

We have posted the family photos from the large get-togethers of John Roberts’ descendants in the early 1900s.

Jason Lee Roberts Family, 1892, Jasper County, Iowa. From left: Orpha B. Roberts, Oca S. Roberts, Julia (French) Roberts, Guy L. Roberts sitting on fence, and Jason Lee Roberts. [Click to enlarge.]
In this image, Guy L. Roberts was only about 2 years old, so it doesn’t help us much to ID him, but his mother, Julia French Roberts was 29 and his father, Jason Lee Roberts, was 33. We can see adult features to help confirm our hypothesis as to half the passengers in the beautiful old Cadillac.

Jason Lee Roberts Family, 1900. Standing, in white dress is Orpha B. Roberts, her brother Guy L. Roberts, Jason Lee Roberts, his wife Julia (French) Roberts holding baby Ralph Roberts. Seated children, from left: Wiley Roberts, Willard Roberts, and Charley Roberts. Cropped from large family portrait. [Click to enlarge.]
This portrait taken 8 years later gives us an even better idea of the facial features of Jason, Julia, and Guy. Guy was about 10 years old in this family grouping, so his features will changesomewhat, throughout the next 10 years or so.

We also have a portrait of Jason and Julia from maybe 10 years after this last family picture, about 1910 or so:

Jason L. Roberts and his wife Julia French Roberts, possibly taken circa 1910. from the Harlan Family WordPress blog, with permission. [Click to enlarge.]
Ears and noses are good facial areas to focus on when trying to ID persons through the years, and those features do suggest the man in the back seat could be Jason Lee Roberts. The woman in the circa 1910 portrait and the younger images looks very much like Julia French Roberts, in this author’s humble opinion.

We recently found the following portrait in a box full of photos, with many of them Robertses and the photos unexpectedly old:

Probably Guy Leslie Roberts with his wife Florence Myrtle Wilson Roberts and two children- not confirmed. The children may be Cyrene Iris Roberts (later Stillwell) and John Malcolm Roberts, setting the time to around 1914. [Click to enlarge.]
If you have not read the caption, would either of these adults look familiar? This looks like the couple in the front seat of the car, so we feel they are most likely Guy and Florence Myrtle Wilson Roberts.  Again, we have found no other photos of Guy or Florence online or on genealogy websites to verify this identification, but it seems very possible we have the correct people. The first two children of Guy and Florence were Cyrene Iris Roberts (later Stillwell), who was born in 1912, and John Malcolm Roberts, born 1914. Florence would have a total of 10 children before she and Guy divorced in 1943. Guy remarried in 1947 and had one child, Guy L. Roberts, Jr., with his second wife, Bernice Harper Roberts (1908-1981).

Have we met the Genealogical Proof Standard in identifying these people? We do have a lot of circumstantial evidence, but is it a “preponderance of evidence”? Have we done “exhaustive research”? This is as much as we now know, and feel the hypothesis of those in the car being, from left, back seat, Jason Lee Roberts, Julia French Roberts, and in the front seat Guy Leslie Roberts and his wife Florence Myrtle Wilson Roberts is correct. We hope that someone will have other pictures to definitively prove our hypothesis, so please contact us if you can tell us more!

And of course, that car in the second picture of Guy and Florence… People took pictures of themselves with their most prized possessions, and since Guy founded two automobile insurance companies, we could suggest that he was very proud of his vehicles. We can definitely say it is not the same car as the first because of the back fender line angling down, whereas in the first/earlier car the back fenders ran straight to the rear of the vehicle. So this may be the latest and greatest model at that time. And that is the deepest this human, not vehicle, genealogist will proceed, leaving it to others who will better enjoy the fine nuances of successive car vintages to research.

 

Notes, Sources, and References: 

  1. Family treasure trove of pictures.
  2. Prior Roberts family genealogical research.
  3. A special “thank you” to the Harlan family for allowing us to share the image of Jason and Julia they posted on their WordPress blog.
  4. Thanks also to our wonderful family who has shared the boxes of pictures and tediously scanned them so we may all enjoy. More of those to come on the blog!

 

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Guy Leslie Roberts? Jason Lee Roberts? and Georgie Roberts of Jasper County, Iowa, Part 1

The Roberts Family (likely), out for a drive. Possibly Guy Leslie Roberts, his wife Florence Myrtle Wilson, and Guy’s parents in back seat: Jason Lee Roberts and Julia French Roberts. (ID needs to be confirmed further.) [Click to enlarge.]
ROBERTS Family (Click for Family Tree)

First,  it is important to say that **we do not know for sure the identity of these people in the car. **  We are hoping that a kind reader out there will share some of their images to confirm or refute our educated guesses.

Second, what a fun picture! Wonder where they are going, dressed in their finery. Looking at the intricate and beautiful hats of the ladies, they most likely will not be driving very fast with the top down.

This RPPC (Real Photo PostCard- photos were printed on heavy cardstock for mailing) was found in a collection of wonderful very old pictures that included many persons in the Roberts family of Jasper County, Iowa. There were no names on this image to definitively ID the individuals, but because it was a postcard, we got very lucky that it was completed to be mailed to a person and has a signature. Sadly there is no postmark to give us an approximate date. With this information, however, plus previous research, we can make an educated guess about the people out for a ride in this amazing new machine, the automobile.

Reverse of above image.

Again, while we do not know for sure that this image is of the people we listed in the caption, there are quite a few clues that have helped us to come to these conclusions. Here is a bit of the thought process and information used to verify steps in our hypothesis- it is not quite a genealogical standard of proof, but as close as we can get with the data we can find:

1. The car and clothing of the persons in the photo suggest the early 1900s time period in the United States.

2. On the front grill of the car, the name appears to be “Cadillac.” A Google search for Cadillacs from 1900-1930 was a starting place to ID the car, so we could determine approximately when this was taken and who in the family would have been alive at that time. Using the comprehensive “New Cadillac Database” was easy as one can to scroll through all the pictures and confirm with the text the specs and profile of a vehicle. Identifying features of the vehicle include distinctive square lights on the side with round lights in front. There is a curved cowling to separate the longer hood from the four-seater body. The car had a top (a demi-tonneau) that could unfold above the seats for protection from the weather if needed. If this non-car-person’s assessment is correct, this may be a 1909 Cadillac Thirty, an exciting new vehicle with a 30 horsepower engine. Top speed would have been about 50 mph, which isn’t bad considering how few roads were paved, especially in rural areas like Iowa. This model may have been the Model G demi-tonneau. The base price was $1350 (about $46,000 today), with a speedometer, lamps, a generator for the lamps (instead of oil or gas lamps), a detachable tonneau, a second battery, etc. all adding to the price- selling cars hasn’t really changed much, has it? This could instead be a 1910 or 1911 model, 1911 being the last year a crank was used to start the car. So we can say that likely this car is circa 1910, which helps us pin down the time. [Please do leave us a note if we have not found the correct Cadillac model- we appreciate true expertise in identifying this vehicle!]

3. We know the Roberts family had cars fairly early-on, as Edith M. Roberts spoke of her grandparents, John Roberts (1832-1922) and Elizabeth Ann Murrell Roberts (1835-1917) having a car. Her father, George Anthony Roberts, Sr., enjoyed driving it before they had their own.

“I can remember the Reo runabout grandpa bought.  To have an automobile then was something.  They would drive out to visit us during the week, but never on Sundays.  Always they were in church on that day.  No one did anything on Sunday but go to church and make calls in the afternoon.  They would come chug-chugging in the farmyard… It was quite level at that time.  Grandpa so tall, and grandma so little, with her veil flying back of her in the wind.  They wore tan dusters.  They would come in for dinner.  Mother would have chicken and noodles, because they like that, and all the goodies that went along with a good country meal.

“After dinner dad would go out and get in the automobile and drive it around in a circle.  Of course I was right behind him having a ball.  No one else in the family had a car at that time.  About four o’clock they would leave and the next week they would visit one of the other children. “

REOs (pronounced ree-ohs) became available in 1915, and were produced until 1953. R.E.O. are the initials of Ransom Eli Olds, the founder of the company. And, for those of a certain era, the name of a 1915 truck called an ‘REO Speedwagon’ was the origin of the name of the excellent 1970s-80s band REO Speedwagon! (The letters were spelled out in the band name, however.)

4. Another good clue for identifying this image was on the back. As a postcard, the name and address were there: “Mr. Geo Roberts Jr” of Monroe, Iowa. We know that George Jr lived in Jasper County, Iowa, for his whole life. Georgie, as he was known, was born June 11, 1889 on the family farm near Monroe, Iowa in Jasper County, to George Anthony Roberts, Sr. (1861-1939) and Ella Viola Daniel (1866-1922). Georgie worked the family farms, both as a boy as well as when an adult. This helps us know to look at extended family and friends of the Robertses.

5. “Guy” is a less common name in the family, and a search within the family tree takes us to Guy Leslie Roberts, born December 9, 1890, in Mound Prairie Township, Jasper County, Iowa, to Jason Lee Roberts (1859-1940) and Julia French Roberts (1863-1917). Bingo! Jason Lee was the oldest of the three Roberts brothers born to John Roberts (1832-1922) and Elizabeth Ann Murrell Roberts (1835-1917).

Three Roberts Brothers of Jasper County, Iowa: (from left) William Edward “W.E.” Roberts, Jason Lee “J.L.” Roberts, and George Anthony “G.A.” Roberts, taken around 1900.

That meant that Guy and Georgie were cousins, and they all lived about two miles apart in rural Jasper County! Since there is no postmark the photo postcard was not actually mailed and likely presented in person, again suggesting that we most likely have the correct “Guy.”

 

Next: A few more identification details and photos…

 

 

Notes, Sources, and References: 

  1. Family treasures chest of photos and ephemera. A special “thank you” to all of those through the last 150 years or so who have preserved and passed on the beautiful images of our dear family.
  2. A special “thank you” to Edith M. Roberts McMurray Luck for the stories she wrote about her life growing up along with her sweet biographies of our ancestors, and the grand-daughter who encouraged her to put those thoughts on paper for the generations to come.
  3. Descriptions and Specifications of Cadillac Cars 1905 – 1912.https://www.newcadillacdatabase.org/static/CDB/Dbas_txt/Cad05-12.htm
  4. REO cars, and REO Speedwagon- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REO_Motor_Car_Company, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REO_Speedwagon

 

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Edward A. McMurray, Jr. and April 12, 1924- A Very Special Day, Part 2

Telegram with congratulations to Edith Roberts McMurray on the birth of her son, Edward A. McMurray, Jr., April 16, 1924. [Click to enlarge.]
Roberts Family (Click for Family Trees)

Since it is still the birthday week of Edward A. McMurray, Jr., let’s continue celebrating with some of the treasures we still have, in addition to all the wonderful memories.

Edward A. McMurray, Sr. (1900-1992) was still in medical school in St. Louis, Missouri, when his first son was born. Here he is with Edward A. McMurray, Jr., who was 11 months old at the time. “Dr.” McMurray would graduate from St. Louis University Medical School just a few months after this picture was taken:

Edward A. McMurray, Sr., with his first son, Edward A. McMurray, Jr., about March, 1925. [Click to enlarge.]
And here is the proud mama again, Edith M. Roberts McMurray, when Edward Jr. was a bit older, perhaps around his first birthday:

Edith Roberts McMurray with son Edward A. McMurray, Jr, about 1925. [Click to enlarge.]
On the Roberts side, Edith’s sister, Ethel G. Roberts Robison (1891-1969), had a son and two daughters, so Edward was not the first grandchild on that branch of the family tree. Sadly however, George Anthony Roberts (1861-1931), Edith’s father, had not wanted Ethel to marry the man she did (though in the long run Ethel made the better choice), and George would not even acknowledge his first three grandchildren. So to “Daddy George,” Edward’s nickname for him, Edward was essentially his first, and only, grandchild.

Edward A. McMurray, Jr., with his grandfather George A. Roberts, about 1926. From the photo album Edward put together in the late 1940s, when he was about to get married. [Click to enlarge.]
Edith’s mother, Ella V. Daniel Roberts (1866-1922), had passed away two years before Edward was born. It must have been very hard for Edith to not have her beloved momma with her to rejoice in the birth of a dear son!

On the McMurray side, Edward Jr. was the cherished very first grandchild. His paternal grandparents, Lynette Payne McMurray, and William Elmer McMurray, were doting grandparents:

Three generations of McMurrays: Dr. Edward A. McMurray, Sr. on left, his mother Lynette (Payne) McMurray holding his son Edward A. McMurray, Jr., and her husband and Dr. McMurray’s father, William E. McMurray on the right. Probably taken in 1924. [Click to enlarge.]
Edith, in the stories she wrote about her life, spoke about Will McMurray and what a “jovial and friendly” man he was, with “a most hearty laugh.” She called Will, “Dad” and Lynette, “Mother” and was very close to them throughout their lives. Edith wrote about how Will was known to all as “Bill.”

“He would be hailed from every street corner.  “Hey Bill, how goes it this morning?” Dad would have a ready answer.

He loved the circus.  When Edward Jr. was just six weeks old, we went to one out north of town.  Proudly Dad carried his first Grandchild on his fat tummy and you can imagine the attention he got.  “How about having a look at the boy Bill?”  Dad just beamed and the rest of us acted stupid, grinning from ear to ear.”

Lynette (Payne) McMurray holding her grandson, Edward A. McMurray, Jr. Taken sometime in 1924, as Ed was born April 12th of that year.

The family nickname for Ed’s paternal great-grandmother was “Amino” which was pronounced “AM-in-o.” The caption was written by Ed, Jr. in his family scrapbook he created around 1948, just before he got married. Since he was the oldest grandchild, perhaps he came up with her nickname as he was learning to talk!

William and Lynette’s other son, Herbert C. McMurray (1911-1989), Edward’s paternal uncle, was just 13 years old when Ed Jr. was born.

Edward A. McMurray, Jr., with his 13 year-old paternal uncle, Herbert C. McMurray, likely taken in April, 1924. Caption by Edward in his photo album. [Click to enlarge.]
A bit older, Edward looks like he is not so sure about this ride Uncle Herbert was providing:

Edward A. McMurray, Jr., being carried by his uncle, Herbert McMurray, circa 1925. [Click to enlarge.]
Edward, Jr. was lucky enough to have two great-grandparents still living when he was born.  We do not have any pictures of him with his great-grandfather Frederick Asbury “F.A.” McMurray (1859-1929), but here Ed is with Hannah Malissa Benjamin McMurray (1854-1932), F.A.’s wife. In his later years, Ed was able to recognize her in this picture, but all he could remember was, “She was very stern.”

Hannah Melissa Benjamin with her great-grandson, Edward A. McMurray, Jr., about 1925. [Click to enlarge.]
When he was a bit older, about 3 or 4, Ed hung out with his buddy Uncle Herbert:

Herbert C. McMurray with his nephew Edward A. McMurray, Jr. on left, and an unknown baby. The baby may be his niece, Mona Lynette Cook (1927-1970), daughter of Herbert and Edward Sr’s sister, Maude Lynette “Midge” McMurray Cook. Herbert did not have children when Ed was this young. Probably taken about 1928. [Click to enlarge.]
Herbert was such a favorite with Edward Jr.- in fact, Ed asked Herbert to be his best man when he married in 1948!

Edith adored her in-laws. She traveled back and forth between Newton and St. Louis to be with Ed Sr. who was still in medical school and then likely completing his residency there. Edith wrote:

“They were so good to me.  I stayed with them a lot, in the summer when it was too hot for us to be in St. Louis and later in an apartment on the north side of 322 E 4th St. W.  I can see where we were no doubt a nuisance as [Edward] had colic and one night we had a cyclone and both of us were so exhausted that is Edward and I, we slept thru it and his baby carriage was blown off the porch and Fourth street was blocked with trees blown down.

Dad sold my cakes I made so that I could make enuf money to go to St. Louis in the fall and I was always taken with them on Sundays to Des Moines and to Hudson where we went to visit the McMillans.  I believe they were cousins of Mothers.  It would have been so nice if Mother and Dad had gone by themselves.  On the way home nine times out of ten we had a flat tire.  It would be late at night and every one tired.  Dad and I would get out and Mother would hold the sleeping grandson… [while he was] getting it fixed…”

All that family love in the early years helped Edward Arthur McMurray, Jr. grow into the fine man he would later become.

 

Notes, Sources, and References: 

  1. Family treasure chest of photos, letters, ephemera, etc.
  2. Wonderful biographies written by Edith M. Roberts McMurray Luck about the  people she knew and loved. Provided above as she wrote them, with her spelling abbreviations and lack of punctuation- she was always too busy to pause for a comma or stop for a period!
  3. “The Saga of Ed McMurray, Family and Friends,” a scrapbook put together by Ed around 1948 before he got married. Perhaps it was partially a scorecard for his soon-to-be-wife, Mary T. HELBLING, to learn all his family members? The captions are just adorable, as are the pictures he chose. It is one of those few things that gives a little insight into who he was.

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