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John Roberts (1832-1922)- A Recently Found Portrait

John Roberts (1832-1922), taken by Le Fevre Studio in Monroe, Jasper Co., Iowa, possibly in the 1880s.

Roberts Family

Cleaning out basements and closets can be wonderful, especially when new family treasures are found! Here is one of our most recent wonderful finds.

Reverse of John Roberts (1832-1922), taken by Le Fevre Studio in Monroe, Jasper Co., Iowa, possibly in the 1880s. Handwriting on back is from the 1990s.

We have posted quite a lot of the history of John and his family- see the posts linked below, and the family is mentioned in other posts too- just click on the name in the tags  for each post, or use the sidebar links to see each family story and photo. Also, check back tomorrow for a “new” portrait of his wife, Elizabeth Ann (Murrell) Roberts.

Notes, Sources, and References: 

  1. Family treasure chest of photos. Thanks, clean-up crew!
  2. We estimated the date of these images by looking at birthdates, how old John and Elizabeth look, and other pictures that are known. It seems that Elizabeth and John were in their 40s or early 50s in these photos, so 1885 seemed a good estimate of the year. Also, William L. Le Fevre was a photographer in Jasper County, Iowa in 1865-6, and was listed as an “artist” in an 1885 census. He lived in Jasper County until at least 1905, so the time frame works. (If you know otherwise, please let us know!)
  3. “A Visit with John and Lizzie (Murrell) Roberts- well, almost”
    http://heritageramblings.net/2019/07/02/a-visit-with-john-and-lizzie-murrell-roberts-well-almost/
  4.  “Sentimental Sunday: John Roberts and Elizabeth Ann Murrell Roberts” http://heritageramblings.net/2019/06/30/sentimental-sunday-john-roberts-and-elizabeth-ann-murrell-roberts/
  5. “Sentimental Sunday: Elizabeth Ann Murrell and John S. Roberts” http://heritageramblings.net/2017/02/12/sentimental-sunday-elizabeth-ann-murrell-and-john-s-roberts/
  6. “Friday’s Faces from the Past: Elizabeth Ann Murrell and John Roberts” http://heritageramblings.net/2017/02/10/fridays-faces-from-the-past-elizabeth-ann-murrell-and-john-s-roberts/
  7. “John Roberts and Elizabeth Ann Murrell Roberts- Indiana, Virginia, Illinois, and Iowa” http://heritageramblings.net/2014/02/08/john-roberts-and-elizabeth-ann-murrell-roberts-indiana-virginia-illinois-and-iowa/

 

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A Visit with John and Lizzie (Murrell) Roberts- well, almost

Edith (Roberts) [McMurray] Luck at her desk in Newton, Iowa, 1980.

Many of us are fortunate to know our parents and grandparents, and some of us have actually visited with a great-grandparent. The chance of meeting a great-great grandparent is pretty slim, although today, thanks to the foresight of Edith (Roberts) [McMurray] Luck (1899-1982) and the persistence of a beloved little red-haired girl- Edith was once one of those too- we can, in a sense visit that many generations back.

That little red-haired girl was not me, but I am a beneficiary of the stories Edith wrote about her years growing up on the farm and the people she loved. She gives us so much detail about her family that it is almost like we are there for a visit too.

The John and Elizabeth Ann (Murrell) Roberts Family, 1904.

In the above picture, the fourth child from the left sitting on the ground with long ringlets and a big bow in her hair is Edith Roberts. She was four, and the young woman standing above her in the light dress is her sister Ethel Gay Roberts; her brother George A. Roberts is just to the left of Ethel and their mother, Ella V. (Daniel) Roberts, is in between. Edith’s father George A. Roberts, Sr. is to the right of his daughter Ethel. You can, most likely, pick out John Roberts and his wife Elizabeth Ann “Lizzie” (Murrell) Roberts further to the right in the picture, as they are the oldest in the family and both dressed in dark clothing. (John is the fourth from the right standing, Lizzie the fifth.) Family get-togethers like these on the farm were how Edith learned so much about her family history, and how she had an opportunity to really get to know her grandparents, uncles, aunt, and cousins.

That little red-haired, persistent girl named Edith grew up telling her own descendants about their ancestors, and she finally wrote much of it down, due to the persistence of that other little red-haired girl. (Thank you both!)

Edith’s words are what will be shared here, with minimal additional comments from yours truly- mostly just enough for clarity and to help keep us straight with factual family history. [Editor’s notes will be in italics.]

Edith wrote:

“My grandpa and grandma Roberts were something else. They … had moved into town from the farm. They first lived in Monroe, but later moved to Prairie City.  John and Elizabeth Roberts. I have always liked that name. I like to pronounce and write it and see it in print. ROBERTS, Welsh name it is. Two brothers came over here from Wales. One became a Tory and went to Canada during the Revolutionary War, and our ancestor came west. He was a Whig, and I suppose this is why we have been Republicans all these years. It makes conservativeness, maybe? Never thought of that before. 

[The story of two immigrant brothers, one a Tory (British loyalist), and one a Whig (American patriot) is a common one, but that great political divide is also one that was sometimes true even for brothers born here. Thus far, almost all of what Edith stated about her family history has been found to be true with copious research, so this story bears looking into. A Roberts family history, however, states that the original Roberts immigrant came to America from Wales. (That may still count as being a Tory? Knowing when they came over would help us to determine if this story is true or not.) Also, research is very challenging with such a common name, but maybe with all that is available these days, we will find an answer soon.]

“Grandpa [John Roberts, 1832-1922] was indeed one of the finest looking men you can imagine. Very, very tall. Over six feet, thin, and stately. As I remember him he never walked with a cane or in any way showed his age, except his white hair. It was sort of bristly like, cut short, and always immaculate. He smelled so good. He used a nice smelling cologne I suppose. In those days that was really something. I cannot remember my dad ever using anything like that, or my brother either. He was always well turned out. Clean, neat and sprightly.  

[Despite his age- 72- John Roberts is the tallest of the family in the 1904 picture! And he does look “well turned out.”]

“But what a disposition. So different from grandpa Daniels [Edith’s maternal grandfather]. He [John Roberts] would argue at the drop of a hat on any issue no matter what it was. He harped on religion a lot. There were two churches in Prairie City, one Methodist and the other Christian. Grandpa Roberts was a member of the Methodist church, and if you were not, you were no good. The Daniels belonged to the Christian Church; that is where they attended. Really I don’t think they ever had anything to do with each other. Lived in this little town of maybe 500 people and probably never saw each other except at the post office. By the way, the post office was common ground for every one in town. No mail delivery then. You had a post office box and had to pick up your own mail. A gossip center perhaps.  

The “Homeplace” of George A. Roberts, Sr. and Ella V. (Daniel) Roberts, Jasper County, Iowa. Image taken circa 1900 and hand colored. Part of this farm had belonged to John and Lizzie Roberts previously.

 

“I have often thought that maybe it was because of grandpa Robert’s disposition, caused my dad to leave at such an early age. He farmed for himself before he was twenty, and mother was only sixteen or eighteen when they were married. Dad had trouble with his brother Jason, who was grandpa’s pet, and grandpa was always blaming dad for uncle Jason’s doings. Anyway this is dad’s side of the story. Once I understand they had a “knock-down and drag out” and after that did not do so much “trouble-making” for dad. 

[Ironically and sadly, George A. Roberts, Sr. was a strong-willed, quick-tempered man like his father. George disowned his daughter Ethel when she married a man he did not approve of, and he averted his eyes and did not speak if he saw her or his grandchildren on the street in their small town. Ethel made a good choice, however, as the man George had in mind for his oldest daughter turned out to be a ne’er do well. George did have quite a soft spot for his youngest daughter Edith, however, despite her sneaking notes between her sister and her eventual husband, Bert Robison.]

“Dad had three brothers and one sister. Uncle Ed [William Edward Roberts, 1858-1935] who was a dear. So gentle and kind with beautiful mirthful brown eyes. Aunt Mollie [Mary Jane (Roberts) [French] Blount] 1863-1947] lived in Des Moines and was considered ‘city folks’. Will tell you that story another time. Then dad, and then uncle Jason [Jason Lee Roberts 1859-1940]. There were lots of cousins. Uncle Ed had three children, uncle Jason had seven, aunt Mollie six, and we had three. A lot different than our small close-knit family on mamma’s side of the house.  We were just another grandchild to them. Their house was more interesting than grandma Daniels. I suppose they had more worldly goods. As I look back on it now. Once we had to go there for Christmas and how we kids did complain. Always it was Christmas at grandpa Daniels, or it just was not Christmas. Grandpa Roberts had bought four silver tea sets (we still have one). Each set was in a clothesbasket and what to do about the giving of them. We had Christmas the next day at grandpa Daniel’s but it was not the same as if we could have had it on Christmas Day. 

” Now dear little Grandma Roberts [Elizabeth Ann “Lizzie” (Murrell) Roberts, 1835-1917], as a fretting, busy always at something sort of person. She was so small she could stand under grandpa’s outstretched arm. She loved flowers, and this is what I remember most about that place. There were flowers everywhere. I never see one of those tiny, tiny pansies that I don’t think of grandma Roberts. She was so quiet and kind, and never crossed grandpa, but took his tirades in stride.  

“She came originally from West Virginia. She remembered the slaves and how bad it was for them. Only in whispers did I hear mamma and her talking about this. I was not supposed to be listening.  

“Going back to the flowers, she had a terrarium…  I can see it yet. It was in a large jar and was most interesting. Her dining room was filled with flowers. Always there was a huge fern. You had to be careful not to touch the ends of the fronds or they would die. They would too. The houses were larger then, but I can remember this dining room was most cluttered. 

“I can remember the Reo runabout grandpa bought. [Edith was in her 70s when she wrote these stories, and still very sharp.] To have an automobile then was something. They would drive out to visit us during the week, but never on Sundays. Always they were in church on that day. No one did anything on Sunday but go to church and make calls in the afternoon.  They would come chug-chugging in the farmyard…  [that area] was quite level at that time. Grandpa so tall, and grandma so little, with her veil flying back of her in the wind. They wore tan dusters.  [A long coat was necessary to keep off the road dust as few roads were paved back then.] They would come in for dinner. Mother would have chicken and noodles, because they like that, and all the goodies that went along with a good country meal. Mamma was considered an excellent cook. There was a good relationship between mamma and grandma. [They were in-laws.]

A current example of a 1906 Reo Runabout, via wikipedia

“After dinner dad would go out and get in the automobile and drive it around in the [open area near the farmhouse], in a circle. Of course I was right behind him having a ball. No one else in the family had a car at that time. About four o’clock they would leave and the next week they would visit one of the other children. Strange, all three brothers lived in this area. Each just two miles from each other.  

[Each son received part of John and Lizzie Roberts’ land from his will, before he passed away, or they bought it from him. Some of that land is still owned by descendants.]

She [grandma] always had handwork. Her little hands were never idle. I wish I had some of her handwork… Her workbasket was a most tempting place to get into. Not that I did. I really had a sort of stand-off attitude towards both of them.  

“I don’t seem to remember much about the passing of either of them.  Seems to me grandma went first [she did] and uncle Ed moved in with them and they took care of grandpa because they eventually lived in this house for years. It is still there and I can show it to you some time.  

“Well my pets, this is just off the top of my head; there’s much more that could be written…  I hope this will be meaningful to all of you, and that you will be [as] proud to have them as your… [ancestors], as I am to have them as grandparents.”

 

I hope that you enjoyed our little visit with Edith’s grandparents, and they are now more than names, dates, and a few pictures. What a treasure she has left us!

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Notes and Sources:

  1. Family treasure chests of photos and stories.
  2. Reo image– https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reo_Runabout_1906.jpg

 

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Sentimental Sunday: John Roberts and Elizabeth Ann Murrell Roberts

“John & Lizzie Roberts” 1876, from the Jeremiah Roberts photo album.

We have posted pictures of John Roberts (1832-1922) and his wife Elizabeth Ann (Murrell) Roberts (1835-1917) but somehow missed posting this image. It is from the photo album of Jeremiah “Doc” Roberts (1837-1918), one of the many brothers of John Roberts, and “Doc” actually was a doctor. This is the earliest photo we have of the couple- they would have been in their early 40s if the year is correct.

“John & Lizzie Roberts” 1876, from the Jeremiah Roberts photo album, cropped.

They do look younger possibly in this photo, so we may need to research the date a bit more. (Farm life, with the sun and constant hard work, often made folks look older than they were.) The information on the back of the photo, however, states, “To Jerry Roberts” (likely Jeremiah) and there is a date, 1876. They probably sent the photo from Prairie City, Jasper County, Iowa, to Jerry, who had stayed in Indiana. It would be interesting to know if the date is in the same ink and handwriting- if not, there is more justification to question the year.

John and Lizzie were married in 1857 in Roseville, Illinois; he was 24 years old, she 22. Their first child was born in 1858, and the fifth and last in 1877. (Sadly, their last child died at 10 months.)

Perusing this image did inspire a desire to take a look at all the pictures we have of John and Lizzie, sort of ‘side-by-side’ so we can follow them through the years, however we will need to do that vertically here on the blog.

John S. Roberts and Elizabeth Ann (Murrell) Roberts, possibly in the 1880s or 1890s? Posted with kind permission of the Harlan Family Blog.

Comparing this picture to the first shows how they have aged into possibly the 1880s, which is why the above picture may actually be earlier that 1876.

John Roberts and Elizabeth Ann (Murrell) Roberts, 1892, Jasper County, Iowa, cropped from a larger family picture.

By 1892 the family was well-established in Jasper County. The above image was taken at the Roberts homestead and cropped from a large family portrait of children and grandchildren.

John S. Roberts and his wife Elizabeth Ann (Murrell) Roberts at the family homeplace, 1900.
Cropped from a larger family picture.

John and Lizzie had moved to a larger house by the time this picture was taken. The large family picture this image was cropped from included all their children with their spouses, and grandchildren.

Sitting, from left: Daughter Mary Jane (Roberts) [French] Blount, John Roberts, Elizabeth Ann (Murrell) Roberts. Standing, from left: Sons William Edward (W.E.), Jason Lee, and George Anthony Roberts. Taken around 1900 or 1902.

Some of these family pictures have slightly different dates per the various descendant lines.

John Roberts, circa 1904 or maybe around 1915, at their home in Prairie City, Iowa.

The reverse of this image states, “This is awful dark but your can tell it is Grandpa.”

Four generations of the Roberts family: John Roberts (1832-1922), his son William Edward “W.E.” Roberts (1858-1935), his grand-daughter Maude Mae Roberts Jensma (1884-1980), and great grandson Edward Jensma (1907-1986). Image dated 22 August 1909.
John Roberts, c1920s(?)

We have not found any images of John and Lizzie together after the 1900/1902 image. Lizzie passed away in 1917, and John survived her by five years. The above image was used for his obituary in 1922. (Her obituary had no picture with it.)

 

Notes and Sources:

  1. Family treasure chests of photos. It is wonderful that cousins have shared so that we can have so many pictures of our dear ancestors throughout their lives!

 

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The Murrell Family of Botetourt Co., Virginia, Illinois, and Iowa

Wiley Anderson Murrell and Mary Magdalene (Hons/Honts/Honce/Hance) Murrell. Posted with kind permission of the Harlan Family Blog.

Roberts Family, Murrell Family

We have written a number of posts about the family of Wiley Anderson Murrell and his wife, Mary “Polly” Magdalene (Hons/Honts/Honce/Hance) Murrell. (Use ‘search’ in the box to the left to see them all, or scroll down and click on “Murrell Family.”) We are in the process of sharing what we know with the Botetourt County, Virginia Genealogy Association, so thought that a good start might be to collect some basic information and images for this couple and their children, all in one convenient post.

Wiley Anderson “W. A.” Murrell was born 2 Feb 1806 in Virginia or West Virginia to unknown parents. (We have searched and searched… yet know nothing about his early life.) Wiley married Mary “Polly” Magdalene Honts/Honce/Hance on 9 Apr 1834 in Botetourt County Virginia. Wiley died 27 Mar 1885 in Jasper County, Iowa.

Wiley Anderson “W.A.” Murrell, courtesy of the Harlan family, cropped from combined portrait.

Mary “Polly” Magdalene (Hons/Honts/Honce/Hance) Murrell was born on 9 Sep 1806 in Botetourt County, Virginia, the second child of Henry Honts (1781-1850) and his first wife, Catherine Kauffman/Coffman (1784-1867). Mary died 13 Jul 1887 in Jasper Co. Iowa.

Mary “Polly” Magdalene (Hons/Honts/Honce/Hance) Murrell, courtesy of the Harlan family.

W. A. and Polly migrated from Botetourt Co. Virginia to Roseville, Swan Township, Warren County, Illinois with their children in 1853, then on to Jasper Co. IA in 1868. (Jasper migration year per their obituaries, however the family is not found anywhere- not Iowa, as expected, nor Illinois nor Virginia- in the 1870 US Federal census).

The above image appears to be a combination of two photos- note where their clothing overlaps. The image of Polly appears larger, though she may have actually been a larger woman- but we do not know anything about their stature. She does look to be much older than W.A. in these photos despite them being born the same year, so a later photographer may have combined two images taken at different times to make it appear as a family portrait.

We wish we had a photo of the family when the children were young, but they likely were quite poor as they did not own land in Botetourt County.

The oldest known child of W.A. and Polly was Elizabeth Ann Murrell, born 1 Feb 1835 in Botetourt County, Virginia. When Elizabeth was eighteen, she, along with her parents and siblings, migrated to Illinois. She married John Roberts (1832-1922) in Roseville, Illinois, on 8 Mar 1857. Four children were born to them in Illinois, and they later migrated with her parents to Jasper County, Iowa, about 1868. Both died in Jasper County: Elizabeth on 2 Feb 1917, 82 years and 1 day since her birth; John on 22 Jan 1922.

John Roberts and Elizabeth Ann (Murrell) Roberts, possibly in the 1880s? Posted with kind permission of the Harlan Family Blog. [20 Sep 2019 Editor’s Note: this image is of John Roberts, b. 1832, NOT his father John S. Roberts, as it was originally labeled.]

John Henry Murrell was the second known child of W.A. and Polly Murrell. He was born in Botetourt Co. on 2 Jul 1837. He migrated with his family to Warren County, Illinois in 1853, and at age 25 he married Lydia Reborn (1844-1920) there. By 1870 John and his family had moved to Elk Fork, Pettis County, Missouri, where he died 23 Mar 1880 in Green Ridge, Pettis, MO, just a couple of months before the birth of their sixth child.

We do not have a portrait of John Henry Murrell.

Headstone for grave of John Henry Murrell in Rabourne Family Cemetery, Pettis County, Missouri. Posted with kind permission of the Find A Grave volunteer who took the image. (Click to enlarge.)

All we know of the third child of W.A. and Polly Murrell is that Mary Catherine Murrell was born in Botetourt County, Virginia on 18 Sep 1839, and she died seven years later, on 6 Nov 1846, in Botetourt. We have not found her grave, but due to the family’s probable poverty, they may not have been able to afford a headstone. We do have this record of her life in our Murrell family bible.

Death record of Mary Catharine Murrell, age 7, from Murrell Family Bible.

William Anderson Murrell was the fourth known child of W.A. and Polly Murrell. Also born in Botetourt County, Virginia, on 25 May 1841, William was a teenager when he migrated with his family to Warren County, Illinois. William served his country, enlisting on 1 Aug 1862 in the Union’s 83rd Illinois Infantry for 3 years; he also served as a Private in the First Light Artillery, Co. H, and mustered out 26 Jun 1865 at Nashville, Tennessee. William married Cordelia Talley (1850-1941) in Warren County, Illinois on 1 Oct 1867, and they had four known children. William and his wife stayed in Roseville, where he died on 1 Aug 1922.

William Anderson Murrell and Cordelia (Talley) Murrell- possibly colorized wedding photo? If so, would have been taken 1 Oct 1867 in Warren Co., IL.

James Edward Murrell, the fifth known child of W. A. and Polly Murrell, was born 15 Nov 1842 in Botetourt County, Virginia, and was 11 when the family migrated to Illinois. During the Civil War James joined the Illinois Cavalry, as his older brother John Henry Murrell had, but was in Co. I, Reg. 11 as a private; he was discharged 30 Sep 1865. After the war James moved to Pettis County, Missouri, where his brother John was living. James married Mary E. Robinson and they had six children. At age 70 he was in the National Home for Disabled Soldiers in Leavenworth, Kansas. He and Dillie E. (Carter) [Todd] Fox applied for a marriage license on 22 Mar 1924 in St. Louis County, Missouri; he was 81 (he stated 83 on the application), she 54. We have not found a marriage record, however Dillie was the informant on his death certificate, which also stated that “Dillie E. Murrell” was his wife. 

James Edward Murrell, circa 1860s.

W. A. and Polly Murrell started their family with a daughter, and their last known child was also a daughter, Ann Elisy Murrell (AKA AnnEliza), born 21 Dec 1845 in Botetourt County, Virginia. She too migrated to Warren County, Illinois with the family when a child, and married there, on 15 Sep 1869. With her husband Aaron Brown, she had 3 children born in Illinois, and 2 more were born in Jasper County, Iowa. (They migrated between 1875-1878.) Ann died on 2 May 1892, just 46 years old; her husband Aaron died two years later, age 48, both in Jasper County, Iowa. Sadly we have not found photos for any of this family.

Anneliza (Murrell) Brown- headstone closeup in Mound Prairie Pioneer Cemetery, Mound Prairie Township, Jasper County, Iowa. Used with kind permission of the FAG photographer.

 

 

Notes, Sources, and References: 

  1. Please see previous Murrell posts for more details and references about each of these persons.

 

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Tuesday’s Tip: Censuses and Murrell DNA, Part 5

John Cobb Murrell and his wife Cornelia Frances (Smithson) Murrell in the 1850 US Federal Census of Campbell County, Virginia.

Murrell Family, ancestors of our Roberts Family (Click for Family Tree)

Tuesday’s Tip: Analyze each column of the census carefully to learn more about a family.

Today we continue looking at families that we have found DNA connections to, in the hope of finding out more about our elusive ancestor, Wiley Anderson Murrell. Seeing this census with missing data brings up an important tip- always look a bit further.

John Cobb Murrell and Cornelia Frances (Smithson) Murrell were newlyweds when enumerated in this 1850 U.S. Federal Census in Campbell County, Virginia. (They had married about 6 months earlier, on 15 March 1850.) Analyzing the columns, we noticed that the first two, for dwelling and family number, have no entry for John or any of the others living in that home. Looking at the names of persons listed, only Cornelia appears to be related, plus the four persons listed after Cornelia are all adults, and the two children listed above John do not have a parent listed. So it is time to… yes, turn the page- though we probably can’t call it that anymore since we are not using physical paper. (!!)

Household in which John Cobb Murrell and his wife Cornelia Frances (Smithson) Murrell are found in the 1850 US Federal Census of Campbell County, Virginia.

Checking the page before, at the bottom, tells us that John and Cornelia were living in Dwelling #499, that of the Innkeeper Jack Elliot. “Tavern” appears written in under family number after Jack is listed as the head of Family #499. It appears that Jack was living with his wife and children of 7, 10, 5, and, if we go back to the page with John and Cornelia, a 2 year old and a child 4/12, or 4 months, old.

The couple listed after Cornelia could be married or siblings since they have the same last name, and he is a minister of the MEC (Methodist Episcopal Church). There is also a merchant listed as living at the inn, and a bar keeper- he probably works at the bar at the inn/tavern. (There are other entries on nearby pages with a bar keeper living at an inn.)

The 1850 census doesn’t give us all the information we might like, but it does state that John was a lawyer, and both he and Cornelia were born in Virginia. There is another lawyer listed on the page, living in his own home with his wife and family. Another minister (of the Baptist Church?) rounds out the jobs requiring college education, with the rest of the residents having honest trades like carpenter, wheelwright, “Taylor,” blacksmith, and farmer. All were born in Virginia except for the minister living at the inn, and two of the children attended school. There are tick marks for them in the column for “over 20 and cannot read nor write” but those boys are just ten and six years old, so likely those were some sort of check mark for the computation that was done, as we see a similar mark by “Pennsylvania” where the Methodist minister was born.

No “value of real estate owned” is listed for John C. Murrell, but there is none listed for the remaining adults at the inn, and that is likely why they live at the inn.

Analyzing the columns carefully when we first looked at this census was important. When we found that the dwelling and family information was missing, we had a hint- we needed to check around to learn more about the family. Seeing that John and Cornelia were living in an inn with other professional people tells us a bit about the newlyweds, just getting started in their life together. How sweet! And we would not have known any of this, if we had missed that two boxes were empty on this census.

 

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